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I am looking for information regarding Emma Amelia Schultz, I have very little information to start a search.
What I have is, a 1910 and 1920 US census for the state of Washington, that gives her name as both Amelia and Emma, a birth place as Canada, her birth year about 1884. Her father's birth place as Germany and mother's as France. Her second husband's name as Curtis Stillwagon.
Her immigration year as 1897 (but difficult to read)
1920 census says the Curry children's father (children by 1st husband) was born in England
My father's memory that his grandmother may have been Emma Schultz.
A child's birth record that gives her maiden name as Schultz (this child was Leslie Stillwagon from her second marriage) Giving her name as Amelia
Entries in the marriage records in 1909 for Victoria BC of her marriage to the second husband (Stillwagon), but also gives her surname as Schultz as well as Currie, I believe Currie/Curry to be her first husband's surname. Also her parent's names of William and Minnie.
An entry in the 1920 census giving her children ( by her first marriage) the surname Curry.
My father's middle name of Curry.
My grandmother's birthdate as 14 Feb 1906, name was Bertha Irene Curry/Currie and her brother was, Hirshal Curry/Currie, born about 2 years later in Sequim Washington, both birth records burned in a fire there. Bertha Irene's birth date was on the death index so could be off but only the month and day, the year is correct with all we knew to be true of her.
Two marriage record for daughter, Bertha Irene, one to her first husband, Bertram Saunders in 1920 in King Co Wa, where Emma was a witness, and Bertha Irene's second marriage record to Albert Kotzerke in 1934 where Emma was also a witness along with her third husband, William Newman. The second marriage took place in Okanogan Wa, close to the Canada boarder. Bertha Irene was listed as living in Alaska so Emma may have been the one to be living in Okanogan. There was some talk that Emma and Irene (as Bertha was known by) were married on the same date in the 1934 marriage but I have never been able to prove that.
I have researched a few of the Emma Amelia Schultz's in Canada and so far none have met her criteria
I have used Ancestry, Family seasrch (all three versions), Heritage quest, google, the vital index for BC, the Census site for Canada.
There is so much i want to know but for now, what I would like to know is the given name of her first husband Mr CURRIE/CURRY (My g- Grandfather) when and where they were married and hopefully some information or leads about him.
Leads to the ancestry of my Emma Amelia Schultz, where in Canada she was born etc.
I have traced the Emma Amelia with the parents of Rudolf and Pauline, (in Ontario) this is _not_ her family, This family is the one that every one seems to reccommend to me. I did extensive research on this family so if any one knows someone who wants my information about them I would be happy to share all of it.
So you see, I have basically _nothing_ concrete (primary sources) to go on just a lot of little things. I tried to present all of the relevent information in the briefest way I could, I would love to find siblings of Emma's if there were any. she is such a mysterious woman.
Voter's list 1894 with many of the family names on it http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bccaribo/1894votersWL.html
a death for a Clifford Lyons...William's Lake http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca
Thank you again, I am trying to digest this information and put it in order to begin trying to see if I can document a connection between this Amy and our Emma to see if they are indeed one in the same. Family lore says Minnie died giving birth to a son, when Emma was about 3 years old, and Emma went to live with William's brother's wife. Another lore was that William was murdered in Alaska for gold he was carrying.
Something interesting was that on some of the census' you sent list the race as "R" and there are rumblings among the family of indian blood some where along the line (Emma's line), I think in those days they didn't speak of it, but I think there was something to it.
Also adding the marriage of Maud Mary so the wee one was a sister.
Remember to write all these name down carefully along with husband's names. The witnessing of a sister or someone from this group may be the only proof you'll ever have as there are very few births that were registered in B.C. and without the Currie wedding info this may be all you'll ever get, unless B.C. families have some more information.
She married John Lyne in whose parents home she was boarded out so that ties her in. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JDDH-C6L
Oh, say, son was Clifford Lyne, and wasn't Ida caring for him in 1911? He's enumerated twice!
The last entry on the 1881 census is interesting, Charles Buschie, the surname is similar to what Emma's daughter had written as Minnie's maiden name. it was hard to read because it had been written over and corrected but looked like Bushie or Rushie or Fushie. I remember because she commented on it being french sounding.
Well I am glad you found a shred of evidence, too bad you hadn't mentioned it or looked closer at the 1881 sooner. Need that marriage info to see who witnessed it.
You mentioned "rumblings" of an aboriginal background ... I can't see how that would matter in any way, except the odd family likely has some pretty fantastic colouring.
It also means you will never find that ancestor as women were though little enough to be of note back then as it was, let alone one of colour.
There is a William Buschie with a large family in the same region as Moffit/Moffat... they say born B.C. and are catholic so there may be some parish records for that part of the family. Because of the remote area, it may be hard to find even those...although there may have been the odd mission records kept...
Ohhh, found this!!! http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bccaribo/churches.html
William seemed to miss the voter's list 1875...http://www.archive.org/stream/listofpersonsent1875vict#page/10/mode...
i wasn't having luck looking for the Bouschie name, but as with the phonetics od any language, it is likely butchered into many forms, some listed here:
Jean-Baptiste Boucher, a Métis interpreter and guide who arrived in what was known as New Caledonia in 1806. Known as Waccan, perhaps a derivative of “watchman,” he had a reputation as a fair policeman and a fierce trader. He died of measles in 1849 and was buried in an unmarked grave. His name, including such spellings as Bouche, Bouchie and Buschie, can be found gracing place names through the Quesnel area. As well, hundreds of his descendants still live in the Cariboo.
Great that I saw that association as found this site...and there is a family tree, Charles but not sister Mary...if it turns out she was Boucher. It sounds as though the tree was made up from descendant's contributions...there already are a huge amount of children. Where was the name Buschie? If you have a high quality scan I would love to try and make the image more clear for you...
http://www.quesnelmuseum.ca/RiverofMemory/FrasersExpedition/Waccan/... Click on the tree to peruse...
It was in a piece written by Emma's daughter, Beverly (my g aunt), she had written what she "knew" growing up, a little about her life and what she was told about Emma's life. she wrote it for my cousin Peggy. She said back then you didn't ask any questions. I have it on a pdf file, I could email to you but not a scan. It was a typo that she tried to correct so the first letter is the one I have a problem with. I tried to print it out but it won't print so I keep it on my computer.
I am overwhelmed and thankful for the influx of information and have printed out everything so I can realy study everything carefully.
Since that first post, I have had contact with the grand children of two of Emma's other children, The stories range from those memories of a 6 year old little daughter of Emma's, who was put in an orphanage then sent off to PA to live with the sister of Emma's second husband (in abt 1920)... more stories of Emma's later life in Rural Washington, she lived to be 97 years old and I never knew her... memories from one of Emma's daughters of life with Emma and and the name Minnie Louise Buschie (Fuschie 0r ruschie) as Emma's mother's possible maiden name. A birth place of Red deer Alberta as a birth place for Emma, as well as BC as a birth place for Emma. a story of how Emma's mother died when Emma was 3 years old and Emma sent to live with an Aunt. Another story of how Emma's father (William Schultz) was murdered in Alaska for his gold... Many stories about my own grandmother, Irene Currie (curry), Emma's oldest child (as far as i know) and how she mothered the younger girls. emma was married about 7 times, the later children did not know of her marriage to Currie (curry), they just assumed that Irene and brother Herschel were children of her second husband, Curtis Stillwagon.
So much information to sort out and hopefully make some sense from. thank you again to everyone who sent things to me, especially Jeany who has done some tireless reasearch on this, and may have found a key to my ancestors' past.
Nice to hear it was appreciated.
Notes on Thomas Moffit and how local aboriginals helped by feeding starving gold miners.... he was involved in the Gold rush, and perhaps William Schultz was as well. This one says he had an aboriginal country wife, (no marriage) but she would have been metis/partial if she was part of the Boucher/Buschie family... http://shrinkalink.com/51369
This one also says first nations http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~yvonne/moffitt/ps04/ps04_05...
I know nothing is substantial evidence but you'll need to dig more yourself to find more than clues...I live in the Prairies...
There was a John Schultz in Chilcotin 1887 but I don't see him in any surrounding census dates to try and see if he's related http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bccaribo/williams1887.html
Ok the peice written was not on a pdf file like i thought, they are pages labled "windows live photo gallery" so i guess each page is like an individual photo. My cousin had sent them to me, no wonder I couldn't copy and paste the words.