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I am looking for information regarding Emma Amelia Schultz, I have very little information to start a search.
What I have is, a 1910 and 1920 US census for the state of Washington, that gives her name as both Amelia and Emma, a birth place as Canada, her birth year about 1884. Her father's birth place as Germany and mother's as France. Her second husband's name as Curtis Stillwagon.
Her immigration year as 1897 (but difficult to read)
1920 census says the Curry children's father (children by 1st husband) was born in England
My father's memory that his grandmother may have been Emma Schultz.
A child's birth record that gives her maiden name as Schultz (this child was Leslie Stillwagon from her second marriage) Giving her name as Amelia
Entries in the marriage records in 1909 for Victoria BC of her marriage to the second husband (Stillwagon), but also gives her surname as Schultz as well as Currie, I believe Currie/Curry to be her first husband's surname. Also her parent's names of William and Minnie.
An entry in the 1920 census giving her children ( by her first marriage) the surname Curry.
My father's middle name of Curry.
My grandmother's birthdate as 14 Feb 1906, name was Bertha Irene Curry/Currie and her brother was, Hirshal Curry/Currie, born about 2 years later in Sequim Washington, both birth records burned in a fire there. Bertha Irene's birth date was on the death index so could be off but only the month and day, the year is correct with all we knew to be true of her.
Two marriage record for daughter, Bertha Irene, one to her first husband, Bertram Saunders in 1920 in King Co Wa, where Emma was a witness, and Bertha Irene's second marriage record to Albert Kotzerke in 1934 where Emma was also a witness along with her third husband, William Newman. The second marriage took place in Okanogan Wa, close to the Canada boarder. Bertha Irene was listed as living in Alaska so Emma may have been the one to be living in Okanogan. There was some talk that Emma and Irene (as Bertha was known by) were married on the same date in the 1934 marriage but I have never been able to prove that.
I have researched a few of the Emma Amelia Schultz's in Canada and so far none have met her criteria
I have used Ancestry, Family seasrch (all three versions), Heritage quest, google, the vital index for BC, the Census site for Canada.
There is so much i want to know but for now, what I would like to know is the given name of her first husband Mr CURRIE/CURRY (My g- Grandfather) when and where they were married and hopefully some information or leads about him.
Leads to the ancestry of my Emma Amelia Schultz, where in Canada she was born etc.
I have traced the Emma Amelia with the parents of Rudolf and Pauline, (in Ontario) this is _not_ her family, This family is the one that every one seems to reccommend to me. I did extensive research on this family so if any one knows someone who wants my information about them I would be happy to share all of it.
So you see, I have basically _nothing_ concrete (primary sources) to go on just a lot of little things. I tried to present all of the relevent information in the briefest way I could, I would love to find siblings of Emma's if there were any. she is such a mysterious woman.
I think I am getting my replies out of order but I tried to add to my last one and it went south...Marriage for Mabel Macken, ...the family Ida was with in 1891 and the mother? Minnie Moffit!!!
Now look at the 1891, Amy, age 8 Amy? Amelia? Minnie may have been pregnant when he married her, so they called her Maken...This looks very promising...
well if you look at all the children under marriages in B.B. and yet no births for them...so not unusual to not find a birth...
anyway, I think she's been found. Don't know why I didn't read the name as Amy before in the Maken household, but a roundabout way of having solved it is better than not...Had to finish it as was too close not to. I think this all ties in to Elizabeth's find quite nicely...
I can't see that 2nd marriage nor a death for Minnie ...If you want more help just shout!
I am thinking that if the girls who were born to Emma's daughter were dna tested, it may give verification that she was from this area of Canada and especially if Minnie and/or har mother had first nation blood, which we are pretty sure they did. I am wondering how much dna testing has been done in Canada, and specifically among the first nation descendants, so that would be some information to check against. Are there any dna projects going on up there?
You also have to make sure you know what the final test should answer for you, as there are several degrees of testing / range of markers...Not pretending to understand, here is Lorrine a well respected genealogist, on Native DNA Testing
Emma Schultz was married to Stillwagon by 1910 she is in the 1910 census for King county Washington, perhaps Ida was a sibling.
Yes Ida was a sibling and Amy Macken was probably your gal...concieved by mother Minnie Moffit and perhaps William Schultz
Look at the 1891...the name looks to be Amy on the actual image http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/001081-119...
Minnie may have died as head of household John says widow although not always the case.
By 1901 if this is Robert out working at age 14, http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=18232&...
I don't see Mary in 1901 but there is this child Maud A. of similar age on her own boarded out
John is out on his own and calls himself single http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=18231&...
Note no Amy so Elizabeth's find in the U.S. might be correct!!!
Here is a range of Macken phonetics etc to peruse... http://shrinkalink.com/51286
and read the thread replies carefully to see what it all means...you'll piece it together... Amy=Amelia
Mabel ( Maybelle) Maken's daughter Clara Louise Meldrum died young as well... ( she was living with the Meldrum family in 1911....)
deaths for some children of Mabel Macken and Weslay John Jasper
Wesley Norton Jasper https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FLRW-FJ6
Gordon Lee Jasper https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FL1X-CLP
and 3 more I just found....perhaps this person is a rellie, but they don't go far enough back either...
I also could find no births or deaths so far for Mary Raisbeck or Clifford Lyon living with Ida on the 1911 census. The other child belonged to Mabel, as shown above, but not sure if these are Ida/s children or if she is caring for them
The only Reisbeck I could find in 1901, in Cariboo, http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=18228&...
There are a few Lyon in Yale & Cariboo. The lack of bith information is making it hard to find parents for all these children. Thank goodness you had the one marriage to help you
above John is Mable Olive also listed as a boarder.