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Permalink Reply by Hill on March 3, 2012 at 3:48pm

Hello! Sharon  Just wanted to let you know that I will be in about a month's time taking a subscription to the Toronto Star ( M  has the link in the group here) for I have family here also, so if your not in a hurry I will gladly look up Alfred obit for you. Also, the link is currently offering 1945 for free, maybe worth your time taking a look just in case your family is in Toronto. Do you know the name of Alfred wife? 

Permalink Reply by sharon on March 4, 2012 at 9:58pm

Wifes name Emily aged 50 in 1891 census, children Alfred COsbonre, Emily G Osborne, Henry T Osborne, Mary Osborne, John W Osborne, William V Osborne,

Permalink Reply by Hill on March 5, 2012 at 6:41am

Hello Sharron

Two nights ago I was playing around with this family, as the day goes on I will be sending you the census & other information I have found. Now I will warn you new to this thing called the computer (I have other names for it,can't put in type) LOL. First I will start with the death certificate.

Alfred died Dec 16 1910, Born in England November 17 1843, Occupation Priest Church of England, only mother's name is listed Juliet Turner, Cause of Death Diabetic, Duration 18-20 years, Immediate Cause Diabetic Coma 12 hrs.

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Permalink Reply by Hill on March 5, 2012 at 7:06am

Sharon  The 1901 Census of Canada has a D A Osborne in York (same place as death), the birth date is the same also. The Census tells me he is widow, boarder,Occupation Holy Order (would assume this has something to do with the church) and he immigrated in 1876. This is good have two more census to locate and I have. Time for me to feed the calves be back later with more.

1901 Census of Canada 1901 Census of Canada
Name: D A Osborne
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widowed
Age: 57
Birth Day & Month: 17 Nov
Birth Year: 1843
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Immigration Year: 1876
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Nationality: Canadian
Religion: Church Of England
Occupation: Holy Orders
Province: Ontario
District: York (east/est)
District Number: 129
Sub-District: York
Sub-District Number: J-1
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Marble 39
Savina Marble 28
Harold Marble 8
D A Osborne 57

Source Citation: Year: 1901; Census Place: York, York (east/est), Ontario; Page: 8; Family No: 66.

Source Information:

Ancestry.com 1901 Census of Canada [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006.
Original data: Library and Archives Canada. Census of Canada, 1901. Ottawa, Ontario, Canada: Library and Archives Canada, 2004. Series RG31-C-1. Statistics Canada Fonds. Microfilm reels: T-6428 to T-6556.

Permalink Reply by Hill on March 5, 2012 at 9:49am

Hi Sharron  I have a little bit of time to put up next Census before I start lunch , my men like to be fed. In the 1891 Census of Canada  A Osborne abt 1844 England, Occupation C.E.Minister, wife Emily abt 1841 England, Children Mary abt 1872 West Indies, J.W. abt 1874 West Indies, Occupation Bank Clerk and W.N. ABT 1880 Prince Edward Island, Canada. I find it interesting that the last child born in P.E.I., I have located a 1881 Census for this family, more children, will forward later. Time to make lunch.

1891 Census of Canada 1891 Census of Canada
Name: A Osborne
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 47
Birth Year: abt 1844
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Religion: Church of England
French Canadian: No
Spouse's Name: Emily Osborne
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Province: Ontario
District Number: 130
District: York East
Subdistrict: Markham Village
Household Members: Name Age
A Osborne 47
Emily Osborne 50
Mary Osborne 19
J W Osborne 17
W N Osborne 11

Source Citation: Year: 1891; Census Place: Markham Village, York East, Ontario; Roll: T-6379; Family No: 2.

Source Information:

Ancestry.com. 1891 Census of Canada [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008.

Permalink Reply by Hill on March 5, 2012 at 12:43pm

Hi Sharron   Taking a quick coffee break before I work on the farm books. The 1881 Census of Canada. Alfred Osborne, born 1843 England, Occupation Clergyman, wife Emily born 1841 England, Children Alfred C BORN 1864 England Thedogical Student,Emily G born 1867 England,Henry T born 1870 England, Mary born 1871 West Indies, John W BORN 1873 West Indies, William V born 1879 Prince Edward Island. So you can see that the three children listed in the 1891 Census matches the ones on the 1881 Census. The first 3 children born in England, next 2 children West Indies and the last child Prince Edward Island. I still have 2 marriages to send, one of the marriages has a maiden name for mother Emily.Gotta do my books, back in about two hours, will send marriages. Hope to have this wrap up for you by tonight.

1881 Census of Canada 1881 Census of Canada
Name: Alfred Osborne
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 38
Birth Year: 1843
Birthplace: England
Religion: Church of England
Nationality: English
Occupation: Clergyman
Province: Prince Edward Island
District Number: 2
District: Queens
Sub-District Number: A
Subdistrict: Charlottetown Royalty
Division: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Osborne 38
Emily Osborne 40
Alfred C. Osborne 17
Emily G. Osborne 14
Henry T. Osborne 11
Mary Osborne 10
John W. Osborne 8
William V. Osborne 2
Susan J. Power 19

Source Citation: Year: 1881; Census Place: Charlottetown Royalty, Queens, Prince Edward Island; Roll: C_13163; Page: 84; Family No: 404.

Permalink Reply by Hill on March 5, 2012 at 2:49pm

Hi Sharon  I'm back,coffee break,then off to feed the calves then the men.I have located a marriage for a Alfred Chas Osborne born 1865 in England,parents are Alfred & Emily Osborne.This could be the son mentioned in the 1881 Census,also found a Death.I still need to further investigate but I thought I would pass it on to you.

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1928 Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1928
Name: Alfred Chas Osborne
Birth Place: England
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Father Name: Alfred Osborne
Mother Name: Emily Osborne
Spouse Name: Susanna Georgina Emma Reynolds
Spouse's Age: 26
Spouse Birth Place: Canada
Spouse Father Name: William Reynolds
Spouse Mother Name: Catherine Reynolds
Marriage Date: 9 Jan 1889
Marriage County or District: Wellington

Source Citation: Archives of Ontario; Series: MS932; Reel: 66.

Source Information:

Ancestry.com and Genealogical Research Library (Brampton, Ontario, Canada). Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1928 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Original data:

Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947 Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947
Name: Alfred C Osborne
Death Date: 25 Feb 1924
Death County or District: York
Age: 60
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Birth Location: England

Source Citation: Archives of Ontario; Series: MS935; Reel: 309.

Permalink Reply by Hill on March 5, 2012 at 3:02pm

Hi Sharon  I have located a John Walding Osborne which could be the son mentioned in the 1881 & 1891 Census.In the 1891 Census he was a Bank Clerk on the marriage occupation is the same.This is the one that has Mother's maiden name.
Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1928 Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1928
Name: John Walding Osborne
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Father Name: Alfred Osborne
Mother Name: Emily Walding
Spouse Name: Larna Elizabeth Duncan
Spouse's Age: 26
Spouse Father Name: John Duncan
Spouse Mother Name: Minnie Sanderson
Marriage Date: 5 May 1907
Marriage County or District: York

Source Citation: Archives of Ontario; Series: MS932; Reel: 138.

Permalink Reply by Hill on March 5, 2012 at 3:18pm

Hi!  Sharon  Again she says.Sorry about all the E-mails, have to do my work in shifts. I should of gave a warning in the beginning, Pour a Tall Glass of Something. LOL In Conclusion with the first three children born in England, the marriage most likely in England. It would appear that the family went to West Indies, then Prince Edward Island, then to Toronto. I do not have much experience in searching those areas but a least gives you a idea where to go in hopes of proving or disproving this facts. The Census is only a guideline but can help in searching. Should be back later tonight, might see you in the chat or send a reply if you have questions.Back to work for me.

Permalink Reply by Hill on March 16, 2012 at 2:27pm

Hi Sharon  Thinking this your John Walding Osborne Death, also Border crossing. Still looking for more. Thought I send now. Hope helps some.                                                                       
California Death Index, 1940-1997 California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: John Walding Osborne
Social Security #: 0
Sex: Male
Birth Date: 15 Jul 1873
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 29 Dec 1953
Death Place: Los Angeles
Mother's Maiden Name: Walding
Father's Surname: Osborne

Source Citation: Place: Los Angeles; Date: 29 Dec 1953; Social Security: 0.

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956 Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
Name: John W Osborne
Arrival Date: 6 Nov 1924
Port of Arrival: Buffalo, New York, United States
Departure Contact: Sister-in-law Susan Osborne
Age: 51
Birth Date: abt 1873
Birth Place: Nasgaw
Birth Country: British West Indies
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Record has photo?: No
Record Type: Cards

Source Citation: National Archives and Records Administration (NARA); Washington, D.C.; Manifests of Alien Arrivals at Buffalo, Lewiston, Niagara Falls, and Rochester, New York, 1902-1954; Record Group: 85, Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service; Microfilm Serial: M1480; Microfilm Roll: 99; .

Permalink Reply by Hill on March 12, 2012 at 3:12pm

In follow up  to Alfred Chas Osborne son of Alfred & Emily a 1901 & 1911 Census. The 1901 Census has a birth date for Alfred, may help in locating birth. This couple it would appear had no children, Occupation for Alfred is Bank Manager in both Census, death certificate says retired banker. also link to cemetery,thinking may be correct people.                              http://cemetery.canadagenweb.org/ON/ONW14433/index2.html    

1901 Census of Canada 1901 Census of Canada
Name: O C Osborne
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 36
Birth Day & Month: 25 Aug
Birth Year: 1864
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Immigration Year: 1876
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Nationality: Canadian
Religion: Church Of England
Occupation: Bark Mang
Province: Ontario
District: Hastings (east/est)
District Number: 70
Sub-District: Tweed (Village)
Sub-District Number: D-1
Household Members: Name Age
O C Osborne 36
Susan Osborne 35

Source Citation: Year: 1901; Census Place: Tweed (Village), Hastings (east/est), Ontario; Page: 12; Family No: 127.

1911 Census of Canada 1911 Census of Canada
Name: Alfred K Osburne
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 46
Birth Date: Aug 1864
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Susan Osburne
Immigration Year: 1876
Tribal: English
Province: Ontario
District: Simcoe South
District Number: 121
Sub-District: Alliston
Sub-District Number: 22
Place of Habitation: Alliston
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred K Osburne 46
Susan Osburne 46

Source Citation: Year: 1911; Census Place: Alliston, Simcoe South, Ontario; Page: 15; Family No: 185.

Permalink Reply by Hill on March 27, 2012 at 1:59pm

Alfred C Osborne    Image for marriage ,death , 1901 Census

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• Marriage Alfred C Osborne.jpg, 58 KB
• Death Alfred C Osborne.jpg, 50 KB
• 1901 Alfred C Osborne.jpg, 439 KB

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