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Permalink Reply by Eliz on March 5, 2011 at 1:44pm

H77620 Corporal SPENCE John Robert MM I 30Aug44

http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/games/armwar/units/11mmaneng.shtml

Permalink Reply by Just M on March 8, 2011 at 11:33am

Thursday, December 22, 1988
Winnipeg Free Press

Now Gilberts Funeral Home is still  running

http://www.gilbartfuneralhome.com/

Wes & David Gilbart
Owners

Office (Toll Free): 1-800-230-6482

Office (Direct): 204-482-3271

Fax: 204-482-7648

E-Mail: gfh@mts.net

Postal Address: Gilbart Funeral Home Ltd.
309 Eveline St
Selkirk, MB R1A 1M8

 

I would try emailing them The will have info they may be willing to give you being this is your uncle

They will have parents names ans some info on parents

They can tell you where he is buried

Attachments:

• John Robert Charles Soence Obit 1.JPG, 34 KB
• John Robert Charles Spence Obit 2.JPG, 40 KB

Permalink Reply by Nancy on March 8, 2011 at 11:39am

Wonderful, I will have a look at it

Permalink Reply by Nancy on March 11, 2011 at 5:29pm

This information is wonderful, now I have hit a road block trying to information on his parents. I have contacted a name that I found that could help me with the cemetery in Balsam Bay but turns out that she had bought the cemetery list and it ended in 1987 and she doesn't even live in Manitoba so is of no help at all.  I have spent 2 days trying to get a phone number for the cemetery and/or church in Balsam Bay to no avail.  Nor have I heard anything from the funeral home. Any suggestions from anyone on this. I also found someone who thought they could help with Campbell's accident in Fort Simpson but that too seems to have hit a dead end. Oh well, guess I will keep looking.

Nancy

Permalink Reply by Just M on March 11, 2011 at 6:56pm

Sorry i missed that in the obit

Being he was cremated there may be no cemetery records

It is St Luke Anglican Church there maybe you can find a contact for someone there - but like many small churches may only be lay ministers now

Have you looked at telus for phone numbers and contacted John Roberts daughters?

Permalink Reply by Nancy on March 11, 2011 at 7:08pm

I only found a couple of names that could be his daughters and I will try calling them this weekend.  I was kind of hoping to get more info from the church but so far I am having no luck with that. Thanks for your help. I didn't think to check telus for phone numbers, I have been using 411.ca, guess I will try telus for the church number as well

Permalink Reply by Nancy on March 12, 2011 at 12:40pm

Finally I found some more information on John & Campbell's parents. I was able to reach the funeral home in Selkirk and they told me that his father was John George Spence and his mother was Christina Jessie Monkman. They did no do the funeral for Campbell. He also told me that there probably wasn't any record of John's burial as they spread the ashes and the cemetery in Balsam Bay is very small and doesn't even have an address.

Permalink Reply by Just M on March 12, 2011 at 1:03pm

You should also order Catherine's birth record from Vital Stats.

I wonder if this is her

1911 Census of Canada
Name: Christina Monkman
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 6
Birth Date: Feb 1905
Birthplace: Manitoba
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: William L Monkman
Mother's Name: Caroline Monkman
Tribal: Scotch (Scotish)
Province: Manitoba
District: Selkirk
District Number: 22
Sub-District: Selkirk
Sub-District Number: 58
Place of Habitation: Rosser Ave
William L Monkman 49
Caroline Monkman 43
Joseph H Monkman 24
Walter E Monkman 11
Richard C Monkman 9
Alice Monkman 18
Margaret A Monkman 16
Christina Monkman 6
Gladys M Monkman 2

1916 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta
Name: Christine Valentine Monkman
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 11
Est. Birth Year: 1905
Birthplace: Manitoba
Home in 1916: 29, Springfield, Manitoba
Address: 18, 7, E1, St Clements
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Relation to Head of Household: Daughter
Father's Name: William Monkman
Mother's Name: Caroline Monkman
Sub District Desc.: Townships 18 to 25, inclusive, whole or fractional, ranges 6 to 17, inclusive E.P.M.
Household Members: Name Age
William Monkman 54
Caroline Monkman 49
Joseph Alexander Monkman 29
Walter Edward Monkman 17
Richard Charles Monkman 14
Christine Valentine Monkman 11
Gladys Maria Monkman 7

Middle name not Jesse tho so unlikely

Province of Manitoba | Birth, Marriage and Death Database Searches

LAST NAME: MONKMAN
FIRST NAME: CHRISTINA VALENTINE
DATE OF BIRTH: 14/02/1905
PLACE OF BIRTH: SELKIRK SEX: FEMALE
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1905,009116
REGISTRATION DATE:
MOTHER'S DETAILS Maiden Last Name: SINCLAIR

Given Names: CAROLINE

BUT you really need to prove without a doubt that Catherine was their daughter

 Christina Spence should show up in the death index on the above site but is not. Do you have any idea why not? She would have died around 1930 id she died when her daughter was 8

Permalink Reply by Eliz on March 12, 2011 at 2:27pm

From what I can see "Christina Valintine Monkman" married an Alfred Thomas, I am begining to think this is a whole different woman.. this one was born in 1905 and died in 1978. found the obit and can't connect it to our Christina.

Permalink Reply by Nancy on March 12, 2011 at 2:50pm

That is what I am thinking as well, Our Christina Jessie (Jesse) Monkman would only have been 13 when her first child was born and even in 1918 I am thinking that is a bit youg

Permalink Reply by Just M on March 12, 2011 at 2:53pm

Where was oldest child born

Permalink Reply by Nancy on March 12, 2011 at 3:01pm

I don't have his exact birthday but it was sometime in 1918

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