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Permalink Reply by Just M on February 23, 2011 at 5:30pm

Do you have his death record. If not please wander over to the British Colunbia board and ask if anyone is going to tha archives that could copy it for you- Al Parsons in that group is great at those lookups

British Columbia Death Index: 1872 to 1979
Name: Richard Andrew Smith
Gender: Male
Age: 63
Death Date: 14 Mar 1941
Place of Death: Victoria
Registration #: 1941-09-586654
BCA #: B13171
GSU #: 1953631

Source Information:

Ancestry.com
. British Columbia Death Index: 1872 to 1979 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2001.
Original data: British Columbia Vital Statistics Agency. British Columbia, Canada. British Columbia Vital Statistics Agency: P.O. Box 9657, Stn Prov Govt, Victoria, BC V8W 9P3.

There may also be an obituary for him which might tell you a bit of new info

 

Permalink Reply by Just M on February 24, 2011 at 9:25am

I found 3 trips back but not the one that says he was a widower

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Andrew Richard Smith
Birth Date: abt 1877
Age: 50
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 16 Apr 1927
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Homeric
Search Ship Database: View the 'Homeric' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: White Star Line
Official Number: 146513

Name: Richard Andrew Smith
Birth Date: abt 1877
Age: 52
Port of Departure: Quebec, Canada
Arrival Date: 17 Jul 1929
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Montrose
Search Ship Database: View the 'Montrose' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 147375

Name: Richard Andrew Smith
Birth Date: abt 1877
Age: 54
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 18 May 1931
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Plymouth
Ship Name: Ascania
Search Ship Database: View the 'Ascania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 147907

Permalink Reply by Jake on February 24, 2011 at 11:55am

Just M,

Thanks for your rapid reply & for taking an interest.

Regarding his death, I do have that basic information that you posted and have arranged to view the micro filmed records at a local Family History Centre/Church of Latter Day Saints.

I have found 5 trips back to the UK, 1925/27/29/31/ & 33. Always in July/August. His mother died in 1933 so no more visits.

On the CANADIAN GOVERMENT RETURN column 6 gives the MARITAL STATUS.

1925 has a W = Widowed.

1927 has a W = Widowed. fuzzy & hard to read

1929 has an S  ?? = Single ??

1931 has a W = Widowed

1933 has an S  ?? = Single ??

So, on balance I think he was probably married. Certainly worth checking out??

regards

Jake

Permalink Reply by Just M on February 24, 2011 at 1:04pm

Would for sure be worth asking on the British Columbia board if anyone would be able to look for an Obituary seeing as you have death date.

Do you know where he is buried? If not once you look at death certificate it will tell you

Permalink Reply by Jake on February 24, 2011 at 3:59pm

I will know more about his death once I have seen the death registration info'.

Jake

Permalink Reply by Jake on February 28, 2011 at 4:27pm

Have found an obituary in EDMONTON JOURNAL, 15/03/1941,

This mentions that he had a wife (deceased) but no name given!! No children either.

Also gets his sister's name wrong!!

See here :  http://news.google.com/...

 

Jake

Permalink Reply by MC53 on March 1, 2011 at 4:22pm

He might be listed in the 1916 census as Robert H Smith at Hull Block, Lethbridge, Alberta: single, age 38, born in England, Anglican, year of immigration 1908, Lawyer. 

Access to the Lethbridge Herald Newspaper Archives might be helpful in finding a marriage announcement.

Permalink Reply by Jake on March 2, 2011 at 3:51pm

Hi Michael, thanks for your interest.

Hmmm! That could very well be my man!!  Pity about the wrong name & initial.

Age is OK. Country , religion, date of arrival, racial origin and occupation all OK.

I've looked through the rest of the returns for LETHBRIDGE and there isn't a better match.

So I'll take that as being him .

He seems to have been a "ROOMER" in "HULL BLOCK", built by WILLIAM ROPER HULL a famous rancher, entrepreneur and philanthropist. Picture here  - Hull Block

Thanks for the links to HENDERSON'S directories, I'll go check them out.

regards Jake

Permalink Reply by MC53 on March 4, 2011 at 3:35am

I believe the name of his wife was Beryl Nimmons.

Obituary: Lethbridge Daily Herald 07 Jun 1923

Funeral Notice:  Lethbridge Daily Herald 11 Jun 1923

1891 Canada census: Pearl Mimmone

1906 Alberta census: Bergh Nimmons  (looks like Beryl)

1911 Canada census: L Beryle Simmon

1916 Alberta census: Beh??? Nimmrons  (looks like Beryl)

Her brother: Clement Grey Nimmons b. 10 Apr 1884 Wolseley, Saskatchewan

Mother: Elizabeth Birch   Father: Robert Nimmons  (Saskatchewan Vital Statistics)

Permalink Reply by Just M on March 4, 2011 at 7:36am

Maybe you found something there Michael

I am attaching the obit from Lethbridge Daily Herald 07 Jun 1923 Section 2 Page 7

Following other little snippets in the paper one could say they married after 1917. Odd that I am not finding a wedding announcement - maybe someone else can.

 

Newspaper Archive

Attachments:

• Smith Death.JPG, 38 KB

Permalink Reply by MC53 on March 1, 2011 at 6:09pm

A few references as to where he was working and living (  http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/henderson.html )

Peel 3438: Henderson's Lethbridge city directory » 1914 » p. 267

Peel 3438: Henderson's Lethbridge city directory » 1917 » p. 236

Peel 3438: Henderson's Lethbridge city directory » 1919 » p. 254

Peel 3438: Henderson's Lethbridge city directory » 1920/1921 » p. 229

Peel 2962: Henderson's Edmonton city directory » 1922 » p. 538

Peel 2962: Henderson's Edmonton city directory » 1923 » p. 523

Peel 2962: Henderson's Edmonton city directory » 1924 » p. 493

Peel 2962: Henderson's Edmonton city directory » 1925 » p. 489

Peel 2962: Henderson's Edmonton city directory » 1926 » p. 569

Peel 2962: Henderson's Edmonton city directory » 1927 » p. 497

Peel 2962: Henderson's Edmonton city directory » 1929 » p. 535

Peel 2962: Henderson's Edmonton city directory » 1930 » p. 659

Peel 2962: Henderson's Edmonton city directory » 1931 » p. 625

Peel 2962: Henderson's Edmonton city directory » 1932 » p. 601

Peel 2962: Henderson's Edmonton city directory » 1933 » p. 609

Peel 2962: Henderson's Edmonton city directory » 1934 » p. 622

Peel 2962: Henderson's Edmonton city directory » 1935 » p. 620

Peel 2962: Henderson's Edmonton city directory » 1936 » p. 637

Peel 2962: Henderson's Edmonton city directory » 1937 » p. 643

Peel 2962: Henderson's Edmonton city directory » 1938 » p. 655

Peel 2962: Henderson's Edmonton city directory » 1939 » p. 685

Peel 2962: Henderson's Edmonton city directory » 1940 » p. 708

Permalink Reply by Just M on March 4, 2011 at 8:51am

Attached  is a clipping of the Smith / Nimmons Engagement

Lethbridge Hearld December 10 1918 Page 9

The move from Lethbridge to Edmonton

Mr. and Mrs. R. Andrew Smith, left
on Saturday afternoon for Edmonton
where they will make their future
home
Lethbridge Hearld Monday Jan 16 1922 Page 9

Newspaper Archive

Attachments:

• Smith Engagement.JPG, 16 KB

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