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Permalink Reply by Hill on February 11, 2013 at 8:57pm

Hi Judy

do you think this the family in the 1940 Census,but Ruby birth is 1930.The question is asked if the residence was the same place 1935,the answer is no.But will say have not found the family in the 1930 Census.

1940 United States Federal Census 
Name: John L Baker
Respondent: Yes
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Arkansas
Marital Status: Widowed
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Osage City, Osage, Oklahoma
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Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: Rural
Residence in 1935: Rural
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 8A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 158
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John L Baker 65
Troy Baker 35
Bill Baker 25
Ruby Baker 10

Source Citation: Year: 1940; Census Place: Osage City, Osage, Oklahoma; Roll: T627_3320; Page: 8A; Enumeration District: 57-32.

Permalink Reply by Hill on February 12, 2013 at 6:05am

Hi Judy 

taken a look at the image Ruby's age is all messed up.Looks like 19 to me.What do you see?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VBKW-3SV

You mention Lizzie died 1935,any dates.It would seem they moved after her death to Oklahoma.

Would this be the family in 1920

1920 United States Federal Census 
Name: John L Baker
Age: 43
Birth Year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1920: Maumee, Searcy, Arkansas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Lizzie Baker
Father's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee
Home Owned: Own
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John L Baker 43
Lizzie Baker 39
Troy Baker 15
Clive Baker 12
Harlie Baker 10
William Baker 5

Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: Maumee, Searcy, Arkansas; Roll: T625_81; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 117; Image: 543.

Permalink Reply by Eliz on February 13, 2013 at 4:58pm

http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10549181/person/-577953803

have you tried contacting the above, she has a photo of Lizzie and her death listed as Sept 1936

 

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Permalink Reply by Hill on February 14, 2013 at 3:25pm

Hi Judy

Just to let the members know,you have informed me your tree on Ancestry is the Palmer Family.

Clive Baker on Find A Grave has a obit,according to the obit he arrived in Oklahoma at the age of 19.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=baker&...;

This could be Clive, single, border. Still trying to find the remaining family in 1930.

1930 United States Federal Census 
Name: Cleve Baker
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1908
Birthplace: Arkansas
Race: White
Home in 1930: Osage, Osage, Oklahoma
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Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Father's Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother's Birthplace: Arkansas
Household Members: Name Age
Lige Taber 46
Goldie Taber 34
Harold Taber 16
Howard Taber 3
[3 1/12]
Jennie Powell 66
George Pardee 18
Cleve Baker 22
Frank R Pardee 47

Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Osage, Osage, Oklahoma; Roll: 1923; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 30; Image: 192.0; FHL microfilm: 2341657.

This appears to be Clive,matches with the obit in Find A Grave.

1940 United States Federal Census 
Name: Elive A Baker
Respondent: Yes
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1908
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Arkansas
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Osage City, Osage, Oklahoma
View Map
Street: E Grand
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: Rural
Residence in 1935: Rural
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 5B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 104
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elive A Baker 32
Velma Baker 27
Anna Bell Baker 8
Charles Baker 4

Source Citation: Year: 1940; Census Place: Osage City, Osage, Oklahoma; Roll: T627_3320; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 57-32.

Later will look at your tree to see where you may need some help.

Permalink Reply by Hill on February 15, 2013 at 7:09am

What an interesting story on Hiram Baker.You have done a wonderful job on your family tree.The answer to your question when did the family arrive to Oklahoma,sadly to say I cannot locate them in the 1930 Census(checked Tomahawk,Maumee,Searcy,Arkansas also Osage in Oklahoma).In the 1920 Census for John Lindsey Baker,take a look at the image,last entry could be Lizzie father Wm. A. Hill.Find A Grave also has lots of information on the families in Arkansas.

Alexander Baker brother to John at his death does mention brother John also Mother is still living and a picture.Your tree has Martha died 1907 but is still living when her son Alexander died in 1917.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=BA&GS...;

Permalink Reply by Hill on February 15, 2013 at 10:40am

1910 Census Martha is residing with her son Alexander.Mother of John Lindsay Baker.Martha nee Price death had to been after 28 April 1917

1910 United States Federal Census 
Name: Martha Boken
[Martha Baker]
Age in 1910: 64
Birth Year: 1846
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1910: Tomahawk, Searcy, Arkansas
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Mother
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alex L Boken 37
Mary Boken 32
Ira Boken 15
Affie Boken 13
Elmer Boken 11
Rilla Boken 8
Rufus Boken 5
Nellie Boken 0
[10/12]
Martha Boken 64

Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Tomahawk, Searcy, Arkansas; Roll: T624_64; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 0112; ; FHL microfilm: 1374077.