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Emma Amelia Schultz
I am looking for information regarding Emma Amelia Schultz, I have very little information to start a search.
What I have is, a 1910 and 1920 US census for the state of Washington, that gives her name as both Amelia and Emma, a birth place as Canada, her birth year about 1884. Her father's birth place as Germany and mother's as France. Her second husband's name as Curtis Stillwagon.
Her immigration year as 1897 (but difficult to read)
1920 census says the Curry children's father (children by 1st husband) was born in England
My father's memory that his grandmother may have been Emma Schultz.
A child's birth record that gives her maiden name as Schultz (this child was Leslie Stillwagon from her second marriage) Giving her name as Amelia
Entries in the marriage records in 1909 for Victoria BC of her marriage to the second husband (Stillwagon), but also gives her surname as Schultz as well as Currie, I believe Currie/Curry to be her first husband's surname. Also her parent's names of William and Minnie.
An entry in the 1920 census giving her children ( by her first marriage) the surname Curry.
My father's middle name of Curry.
My grandmother's birthdate as 14 Feb 1906, name was Bertha Irene Curry/Currie and her brother was, Hirshal Curry/Currie, born about 2 years later in Sequim Washington, both birth records burned in a fire there. Bertha Irene's birth date was on the death index so could be off but only the month and day, the year is correct with all we knew to be true of her.
Two marriage record for daughter, Bertha Irene, one to her first husband, Bertram Saunders in 1920 in King Co Wa, where Emma was a witness, and Bertha Irene's second marriage record to Albert Kotzerke in 1934 where Emma was also a witness along with her third husband, William Newman. The second marriage took place in Okanogan Wa, close to the Canada boarder. Bertha Irene was listed as living in Alaska so Emma may have been the one to be living in Okanogan. There was some talk that Emma and Irene (as Bertha was known by) were married on the same date in the 1934 marriage but I have never been able to prove that.
I have researched a few of the Emma Amelia Schultz's in Canada and so far none have met her criteria
I have used Ancestry, Family seasrch (all three versions), Heritage quest, google, the vital index for BC, the Census site for Canada.
There is so much i want to know but for now, what I would like to know is the given name of her first husband Mr CURRIE/CURRY (My g- Grandfather) when and where they were married and hopefully some information or leads about him.
Leads to the ancestry of my Emma Amelia Schultz, where in Canada she was born etc.
I have traced the Emma Amelia with the parents of Rudolf and Pauline, (in Ontario) this is _not_ her family, This family is the one that every one seems to reccommend to me. I did extensive research on this family so if any one knows someone who wants my information about them I would be happy to share all of it.
So you see, I have basically _nothing_ concrete (primary sources) to go on just a lot of little things. I tried to present all of the relevent information in the briefest way I could, I would love to find siblings of Emma's if there were any. she is such a mysterious woman.
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Permalink Reply by Eliz on -
OK now this is a long shot..really long...Emma was here by 1897 right?
so I played with the census and came up with the following, note their both in the same place:
Name: J T Curry
Home in 1900: St Paul Ward 4, Ramsey, Minnesota
Age: 24
Birth Date: Oct 1875
Birthplace: Germany
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1892
Relationship to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Marital Status: Single
Name: Emma Schultz
Home in 1900: St Paul Ward 4, Ramsey, Minnesota
Age: 16
Birth Date: Apr 1884
Birthplace: Germany ( I am aware that she was born in Canada, but we both know how census are
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1889
Relationship to Head of House: Dish Washer
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Marital Status: Single -
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Permalink Reply by Jo Saunders on -
Thank you again, I have looked at this, and there are somethings that don't compute but it is more than I had before I have copied and pasted it to save and will try to see what became of these two people. the census was 6 years befroe Emma's first living child was born, I don't know if she had any before my grandmother.
Are they actually in the same household? or just in the same district? She was listed as a cook in the 1920's census I think she was a cook for a "camp" or something. -
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Permalink Reply by Eliz on
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I will ck and see what if any address' are given, well to become a cook later, starting in a kitchen as a dishwasher makes sense.. I am going to try some Marriage records .. they were definately in the same area at the moment thats all I have, I didn't investigate it further..it's very possible they married and moved farther west.
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Permalink Reply by Jo Saunders on
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I have an update for Emma, she lived to be 97, and had several more husbands, she had two more cildren by her third husband a Mr Harvey, and I have been contacted by one of the grand children and I have also been in touch with a great aunt, She also had a a daughter from her fourth husband, a Mr Clark.
Because of these contacts more information about Emma has come to light, and we have been in contact with her grand children from a daughter by her second marriage.
We are all in the process of peicing together the life of Emma, we have not found any parents or ancestors for her, nor have we found anything about my mr Currie/curry.
All of this is thanks to the post here and other posts I made here and there, so keep posting your information, you never know who might see it!!!
Thank you Looking4 kin!!
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Permalink Reply by Eliz on
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Fantastic!! so she was a busy gal, most of our relatives were...let us know what you piece together and we can try newspapers etc...
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Permalink Reply by Jeanyalogy on -
Well it is pure spec, and you'll need to investigate as no proof, but we have a William Schultz (He's born Germany) in 1881 in the home of a Thomas Moffit. In the household is his married daughter age 18, who was married at 16 to a Samuel Rohr in 1878
1881 image http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e329/e008211438.jpg ( click on it to enlarge) Here is fhs 1881 as well https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MV6S-2WZ
marriage https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JDDH-ZZKNow I can see no sign of Samuel or Minnie again after that and don't spot him on census...so hard to trace what happened here...Also William seems to still be in B.C. as single in 1891...But he is again the only William I can find in B.C.
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/001081-119... -
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Permalink Reply by Jeanyalogy on
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May just be coincidence but...
There is only one Schultz in the vicinity, a little girl born B.C. c.1881 to father born germany, mother born B.C. but her name is Ida...living with McCackin? family
1891 census - Alexandria, Cariboo, British Columbia, Canadahttp://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/001081-119...
Need to look at the later marriage in B.C. to see who else signs as witness???
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Permalink Reply by Jeanyalogy on
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I checked today and Minnie not in household of Moffitt family in 1891...no death for her that I can find under parent's names. By 1901 census I see no William or Ida...
I have looked for combinations and singular instances including no surname and a date range for Ida, Amelia, Emilia, etc. and have found nothing. Might hers have been an unregistered birth?
Points of interest: Minnie can be a nickname for Mary, Melissa, Wilhelmina, etc. There was a Tom Moffitt of Cariboo gold rush fame, from U.S. -
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Permalink Reply by Jeanyalogy on
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This appears to not be your Ida...unless there were others born to the same couple...but am posting what I found, regardless, should others be searching for this child.
I looked in 1911 now and there she is, lodging with Mabel Macken from the 1891 census?...so perhaps she was being cared for by friends or family in 1891?
Anyway it linked me back to 1901 and there she is with her father, William Schulz who is still marked as single...1911 Mabel may have had a child with Mr. Meldrum...& Clara's birth appears to not be registered http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=47706
1901 http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=18228
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Permalink Reply by Jo Saunders on
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Thank you for checking all of this I will keep it all in my files in case it turns out that this is the same family. It would not surprise me to find emma was an unregistered birth, but it would be nice to find some kind of paper trail on her some where along the line in her life.
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Permalink Reply by Jeanyalogy on
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I think getting more information from the marriage witnesses should be the next step! It would be good to find the "Minnie" from the 1881. Although it looks to be a red herring, I still think this is all too much coincidence... & there may have been 2 children from this union...
I had so hoped we'd find her...
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Permalink Reply by Jeanyalogy on
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I am not crazy...Minnie Moffit was mother of the little girl listed as Ida Florence at her death...she died a young gal only 35+-, a few years after the 1911 census. Says born Alexandria. B.C.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FLKX-B49. -
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