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Permalink Reply by Just M on March 2, 2010 at 8:02am

It was a pleasure talking with you in chat yesterday.

I did some more looking last night nd sadly was unable to come up anything new for you

I guess all I can help with is the passenger list I found that may be him. Maybe if you contact the Toronto Public Library Ask a Librarian they could do a Henderson Directory lookup for him from 1913 till his enlistment date. This should tell you his occupation, hopefully he is a chemist or something like that.

You may also want to post this message on our Veterans Group

Good Luck

Permalink Reply by Just M on March 30, 2010 at 10:51am

He is not in the Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1934 So if he died in Ontario it would appear it was after 1934

Did you ever contact the library to see if they could help you with a Directory lookup to see where he lived after 1916. There is a Donna (click her name to go to her profile) on this group who has offered to help in that area You may want to contact her and see if she can help also. She is great and has really helped me.

How about the war records question did you ever get a reply from them?

Permalink Reply by Donna on March 31, 2010 at 11:19pm

Hi: I checked the directory today but just quickly since I was going by the library and I had to go to work. I didn't find anything in 1916 under name search but I will do a reverse lookup on the address that might come up with something. I also called the Last Post Funds to see if they arranged a funeral for home but they need a date of death to confirm that. I'm going to the library again next week so I"ll look again than for you. I'll let you know what I come up with.

Donna

Permalink Reply by Donna on April 12, 2010 at 9:15pm

Hello Graham: OK I went to the library today and looked checked some directories I checked 1913, 1914, 1915 and 1916 again and did a reverse lookup on the address I never found a lising for Mallan when searching for the name only I even tried searching with different spelling of the surname I did find a James and Edward but with a different spelling. Now when I did a reverse lookup on the address 11 Brookfield Street the name listed for 1913 and 1914 was Frederick Reynold and for 1915/1916 is was shown as Vacant maybe the people who lived there didn't list their names I'm not really sure how that works. Could it be that Frederick Reynold and Frederick Mallan are the same person, could he have changed his name it might explain why you havn't found anything on him. I searched quickly for Frederick Reynolds for 1915 and there were several of them. I didn't go any further since I wasn't sure if I should be looking for Frederick Reynold or Frederick Mallan once we figure it out I'll search some more. Donna

Permalink Reply by Donna on April 12, 2010 at 9:20pm

Just a follow up I just checked on Ancestry and search the address 11 Brookfield Street for the 1911 census and in 1911 the Lampaladi lived there so this Frederick Reynold moved there from 1911 to 1914.

Permalink Reply by Donna on January 21, 2011 at 7:25pm

I just had a thought have your tried contacting the Last Post Fund people they might have paid for his service since you have a Rgt# for him that someone posted here you have a date of birth and full name which isn't really that common they might have some info on him.  I tried searching the Legion Magazine Web site if you search there they sometimes have dates of death posted, I was able to find one of my brick walls that way but nothing there for your Frederick. 

Another suggestion would be to search for a web site dedicated to the 166th Batt, I found an uncle on one of these web sites, the people who set them up usually make a point of finding out what happen to every single people that would have been in the 166th Batt.  You might also want to request his war records they often provide a lot of info on the person and also can provide a date of death. 

I'm at work now but when I get home from work tonight I'll search the "Toronto Star, pages for the past" for you to see if anything comes up for him. 

Donna

Permalink Reply by Donna on January 23, 2011 at 12:03pm

Hello Graham:

I found an article in the Toronto Star dated Dec 6, 1944 it mentions a Joseph Mallan age 74 the title of the article says "Stepped-Out of Bus Man Killed by Cars", it wasn't in Toronto it was in Port Credit.  If you take the date of the article minus his age mentioned in the article it would put his year of birth 1871 its possible the age your Joseph was born 1878 according to the war docs.  This is a possible match but not 100% since its possible that the paper has the wrong age.  I'll keep looking, let me know if you want a copy of this article or for me to post it here.

Donna

Permalink Reply by Graham George on June 13, 2011 at 3:02pm

Dear Donna,

Firstly, I must apologise for not getting in touch before now, sadly I've had quite a torrid time with my illness (MS) this past 18 months or so. I may now be somewhat slower, but I am still in the 'HUNT' as they say , albeit more reliant on the computer and assistance from good people such as yourself and of course fellow members..

I did take earlier advice and got copies of Frederick Joseph Mallan’s service record with the QOR 166th Batt. It shows he was discharged due to deafness in both ears, something which started during his British Army career, for which he was also medically discharged in 1912, just 309 days short of retirement to pension

It would appear he was so determined to serve that he left England in May 1913 for Quebec aboard the Ultonia and managed to finally enlist in 1916. Not sure how he passed his medical, but he soon found himself back in England in Canadian Army uniform. All to no avail though as he was found out regarding his hearing and finally shipped back to Canada in  January 1918. He was medically discharged in the March of 1918 and gave his intended place of residence as 1492A Dundas Street, West Toronto, Ont.

During his service he made  regular monthly separation allotments of $20.00 to a Mrs R T Jewett, 93 Massey Street, Toronto. Perhaps they were in a relationship? Why else give that amount on a regular basis? Possibly a love child to care for? Questions, answers and yet more questions, but full of intrigue. In 1919 he received a war gratuity, giving his address as 261 Crawford Street, Toronto, Ontario.

In your reply you mention that one Joseph Mallan was killed by car after stepping out of bus. This does have possibilities of a connection, because, being deaf, he would not have heard any approaching traffic?

I do have membership to Findmypast.com and Ancestry.co.uk. If I can be of any help using the various files and images of findmypast.com please let me know.

My email address is -: graham.mallan@live.co.uk

I am not sure if it is best to post direct to the group or to receive emails to the above address, your best advice most appreciated.

Many thanks to you and all those who replied to my initial post regarding Frederick Joseph Mallan,

Yours very sincerely

Graham

Permalink Reply by Donna on June 13, 2011 at 5:42pm

Hi Graham:

I've emailed you I hope it gets to you.  I'm guessing its possible that the Mr.R.T. Jewett could be an ex-wife and he's supporting his child or made to support an ex-wife.  Crawford Street and Massey Street are very close to each other maybe a 5 to 10 minute depending on how fast you walk.  So maybe they stayed closed together for a reason.  I'm going to pull up that article again and send it to you to see maybe there is something in there that we can followup on.

Donna

Permalink Reply by Donna on January 23, 2011 at 12:36pm

Hi Graham:  I found the link below it was setup by a man named Ken Scheffler he compiled a list of men who served in the 166 Ball. maybe you can e-mail him and see if he has a date of death for your Frederick who he has on the list. 

http://hamiltongreatwar.org/cef/166nr.html