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Permalink Reply by 39iqn4ecr3xwh on March 23, 2011 at 6:36pm

Hi,

I am a descendent of Geroge Miller through his son, Matthew Franklin Miller>Cullen Pope Miller>George Davis Miller> Atha Lillian Miller>me. I, too, have a roadblock in finding out much about his origins. I noticed that you say he arrived in the US in 1806, yet married Margaret Brandon in 1795, in NC? Would be interested in any documentation you have of his birth in Germany, or arrival in the US. I would be glad to share all I have, so just lt me know. I have the same birth , death, and marriage info. Also have second marriage to Anna Chambers, no children.  Wish I had more on ancestors, but no joy so far.  Are you a RAY related to Maggie Eaufala RAY m. William T. Pickett? Their son married Johnnie Elizabeth Miller who was our matriarch for years and one of my genealogy sources. She neverfailed to remember me or my children's names even in her later years:) So am supposing we are 'counsins'..... would like to hear more about your research.  Thanks - Bill Bryant, Atlanta

Permalink Reply by Carla Jane Lamar Ray on March 23, 2011 at 9:11pm

Hello Cousin Bill,

I am a descendant of George Miller through his son, Lewis Miller, French Strother Miller, Thomas Foster Miller, James Riley Miller, Ruby Miller (my mother).

I found the following:  but you are right, it doesn't match up - he arrived AFTER the wedding to Mary Margaret Brandon.  I have nothing other than this .  What I have on my ancestry.com page.  I am interested in anything you may have.  I have just started working with the Family Research Center here in Lexington, KY (Latter Day Saints) to see if they can help me break this wall.  I will share whatever I find out.

Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s
Name: George Miller
Year: 1807
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1767
Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Source Publication Code: 1804
Primary Immigrant: Miller, George
Annotation: Taken from original manuscripts in the state archives. Names given throughout pages 1-677. Foreigners arriving in Pennsylvania named on pages 521-667. No. 3776, Kelker, supplements this.
Source Bibliography: EGLE, WILLIAM HENRY, editor Names of Foreigners Who Took the Oath of Allegiance to the Province and State of Pennsylvania, 1727-1775, with the Foreign Arrivals, 1786-1808. (Pennsylvania Archives, ser. 2, vol. 17.) Harrisburg [PA]: E.K. Meyers, 1890. 787p. Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1967.
Page: 659

My husband is a Ray. I have his line traced to William R. Ray of North Carolina. b. 1795 Wake, North Carolina d. 1850 Gibson, TN. That is my wall on his line. I have his line traced as follows:

William R. Ray 1795 - 1850 m. Barbara Barbary Spear

William D. Ray - 1832 - 1901 m. Martha Ann Hutchins moved from LIncoln TN to Calloway , KY

Ernest Carroll Ray - 1864 - 1942 m. Elizabeth Waterfield Henry TN to Graves Co. KY

Theron Prentice Ray - 1905 - 1983 m. Margaret Pentecost Graves County, KY

Elbert Carroll Ray - 1933 - m. Barbara Forester Graves County, KY to Lexington, KY

Steven Carroll Ray - 1957 m. Carla Jane Lamar (ME) 1956 Lexington, KY to Nicholasville, KY

If you can tie into this line, please let me know - I am trying to go past William R. Ray who moved from North Carolina to Gibson Tennessee, That is another roadblock.

Let me know if you think we are 'Ray cousins'

Evidently we ARE Miller cousins!

Permalink Reply by 39iqn4ecr3xwh on March 24, 2011 at 4:50pm

Well - we may not be in the same line of Millers - I do not see a Lewis Miller as child of George Miller and Margaret Brandon. Here is an outline of my line. I am under Cullen Pope Miller in gen #3.  See if any of this looks familiar. I will look arounf to see if I can connect on the RAY line. - Bill

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..... 1   George Miller (1768 - 1834) b: Abt. 1768 in Pennsylvania, USA, d: 09 Sep 1834 in Rowan, North  Carolina, USA

 

.....   + Margaret Brandon (1776 - 1819) b: Abt. 1776 in Salisbury, Rowan, North Carolina, USA, m: 13  Aug 1795 in Rowan, North Carolina, USA, d: Abt. 1819 in Rowan, North Carolina, USA

 

........... 2   Matthew Franklin Miller (1796 - 1862) b: 18 Jun 1796 in Rowan, North Carolina, USA, d: 13  Dec 1862 in Talbot, Georgia, USA

 

...........   + Missouri Lumpkin Pope (1808 - 1887) b: 17 Mar 1808 in Hancock, Georgia, USA, m: 08 May  1823 in Jones, Georgia, USA, d: 06 Sep 1887 in Talbot, Georgia, USA

 

................. 3   William F. Miller (1826 - 1827) b: 17 Feb 1826 in Georgia, USA, d: 22 Oct 1827 in  Georgia, USA

 

................. 3   Mary Jane Miller (1828 - 1886) b: 29 Jun 1828 in Georgia, USA, d: 01 May 1886

 

.................   + Henry Davenport Moore (1818 - ) b: 1818 in Georgia, USA, m: 23 Jan 1845 in Talbot,  Georgia, USA, d: in Florida, USA

 

................. 3   Margaret Ann Miller (1829 - 1900) b: 01 Sep 1829 in North Carolina, USA, d: Aft. 1900 in  Georgia, USA

 

.................   + Calvin Mitchell (1830 - ) b: Abt. 1830

 

................. 3   George Brandon Miller (1831 - 1906) b: 10 Mar 1831 in Rowan, North Carolina, USA, d:  16 Mar 1906 in Arkansas, USA

 

.................   + Lucy Lee Ferne (1837 - ) b: Abt. 1837, m: 1857

 

................. 3   Cullen Pope Miller (1832 - 1900) b: 25 Aug 1832 in Rowan, North Carolina, USA, d: 21  Apr 1900 in Talbot, Georgia, USA

 

.................   + Missouri Davis (1837 - 1914) b: 20 Nov 1837 in Georgia, USA, m: 10 Nov 1857 in Talbot,  Georgia, USA, d: 29 May 1914 in Talbot, Georgia, USA

 

................. 3   Gustavus Adolphus Miller (1834 - 1863) b: 27 Jul 1834 in Rowan, North Carolina, USA, d:  25 Jun 1863 in Richmond, Virginia, USA

 

................. 3   Lemuel Bingham Miller (1836 - 1847) b: 30 Jun 1836 in Rowan, North Carolina, USA, d:  19 Sep 1847 in Talbot, Georgia, USA

 

................. 3   Alvira Matilda Miller (1838 - 1844) b: 10 Nov 1838 in Rowan, North Carolina, USA, d: 31  Aug 1844 in Talbot, Georgia, USA

 

................. 3   Isaac Rowan Miller (1841 - 1907) b: 29 May 1841 in Talbot, Georgia, USA, d: 21 Aug  1907 in Talbot, Georgia, USA

 

................. 3   Eliza Louisiana Miller (1843 - 1844) b: 24 May 1843 in Talbot, Georgia, USA, d: 03 Sep  1844 in Talbot, Georgia, USA

 

................. 3   Claudia Monroe Miller (1846 - 1887) b: 16 Mar 1846 in Talbot, Georgia, USA, d: 14 Sep  1887 in Talbot, Georgia, USA

 

................. 3   Lucy Clay Miller (1846 - 1927) b: 16 Mar 1846 in Talbot, Georgia, USA, d: 10 Nov 1927 in  Harris, Georgia, USA

 

.................   + Will Harris

 

................. 3   Alice Miller (1848 - 1908) b: 27 Feb 1848 in Talbot, Georgia, USA, d: 07 Jan 1908

 

.................   + Allen Crawford (1852 - ) b: Sep 1852 in Georgia, USA, m: 21 Jan 1877 in Talbot, Georgia,  USA

 

................. 3   Altona Boyd Miller (1848 - 1931) b: 27 Feb 1848 in Talbot, Georgia, USA, d: 12 Apr 1931

 

.................   + William H. Crawford (1852 - ) b: Abt. 1852 in Georgia, USA, m: 21 Jan 1877 in Georgia,  USA

 

........... 2   Jane Washington Miller (1797 - 1880) b: Abt. 1797 in Rowan, North Carolina, USA, d: Aft.  1880 in North Carolina, USA

 

...........   + Lemuel A. Bingham (1795 - 1885) b: 24 Jun 1795 in Pittsfield, Berkshire, Massachusetts,  USA, m: 12 May 1821, d: 28 Jun 1885 in Statesville, Iredell, North Carolina, USA

 

................. 3   Lucius Septimus Bingham (1824 - ) b: Abt. 1824 in Davidson, North Carolina, USA

 

.................   + Jane E (1830 - ) b: Abt. 1830 in Cabarrus, North Carolina, USA

 

................. 3   George M. Bingham (1825 - 1899) b: 1825 in Cumberland, North Carolina, USA, d: 1899

 

 

 

Page 1 of 2                    Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:45:38 PM

Outline Descendant Report for George Miller

 

................. 3   William Franklin Bingham (1828 - ) b: Abt. 1828 in Concord, Cabarrus, North Carolina,  USA

 

................. 3   Gustavus Adolphus Bingham (1830 - 1900) b: 11 Mar 1830 in Salisbury, Rowan, North  Carolina, USA, d: 09 Jun 1900

 

.................   + Temperance E. Neely (1836 - ) b: May 1836 in Davie, North Carolina, USA, m: 30 Apr  1867

 

................. 3   Samuel Bingham (1832 - ) b: Abt. 1832 in Salisbury, Rowan, North Carolina, USA

 

................. 3   Margaret Bingham (1833 - ) b: Abt. 1833 in Salisbury, Rowan, North Carolina, USA

 

................. 3   Eliza Bingham (1835 - 1891) b: Abt. 1835 in Davie, North Carolina, USA, d: 1891

 

.................   + David M. Furches (1832 - ) b: Apr 1832 in North Carolina, USA, m: 22 Nov 1859 in  Davie,  North Carolina, USA

 

................. 3   Mary Bingham (1837 - ) b: Abt. 1837 in Davie, North Carolina, USA

 

................. 3   Charles Bingham (1838 - 1904) b: Abt. 1838 in Davie, North Carolina, USA, d: 18 Sep  1904

 

................. 3   Jane Bingham (1840 - ) b: Abt. 1840 in Davie, North Carolina, USA

 

........... 2   Elizabeth Miller (1810 - 1880) b: Abt. 1810 in Rowan, North Carolina, USA, d: Aft. 1880 in  North Carolina, USA

 

........... 2   Gustavus Adolphus Miller (1815 - 1886) b: Abt. 1815 in Rowan, North Carolina, USA, d: Abt.  1886 in Talbot, Georgia, USA

 

...........   + Ida Acee (1832 - 1870) b: Abt. 1832 in Georgia, USA, m: 30 Jun 1849 in Talbot, Georgia,  USA, d: Aft. 1870

 

................. 3   Alford Miller (1856 - ) b: Abt. 1856 in Georgia, USA

 

.....   + Anna Chambers (1807 - ) b: Bef. 1807 in Davidson, North Carolina, USA, m: in Rowan, North  Carolina, USA

Permalink Reply by Carla Jane Lamar Ray on March 24, 2011 at 8:54pm

Lewis Miller was a brother of Matthew Franklin Miller 

 

My research shows George and Mary Margaret Brandon had the following children:

 

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• Lewis Miller 

  1789 – 1855

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• Jane Washington Miller 

  1796 – 1880

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• Matthew Franklin Miller 

  1796 – 1862

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• Jane M Miller 

  1800 – 1880

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• Elizabeth Miller 

  1810 – 1880

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• Gustavus Adolphus Miller 

  1815 – 1886

 

 

So we ARE Miller Cousins!

Permalink Reply by 39iqn4ecr3xwh on March 26, 2011 at 5:37pm

Thanks for this. Can you let me know how you found Lewis as a son of George & Margaret? Also, for Jane M? I will paste in all I have on George at this point, but no mention of Lewis...so I may have missed somewhere. Will be happy to add to my files, justneed a paointer or two to find them:) - Bill

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"George MILLER, of German descent, was born in 1767. He was in Rowan County, North Carolina in the 1780's and possibly before. He lived in Salisbury and owned land there. Other MILLER kin had preceded him in Rowan County. He married Peggy "Margaret" BRANDON in 1795. She was the daughter of Matthew BRANDON and Jane ARMSTRONG. The BRANDON's were a prominent, public spirited English family, who came to North Carolina via Virginia. The ARMSTRONGS were Scotch. The Children of George and Peggy MILLER, were; Matthew Franklin, Gustavus Adolphus, Eliza and Jane. "

Source: Heritage of Rowan County, NC, Page 473, Story #681.

Article Sources: Family Bibles, Talbot County Georgia Public Records, Rowan County, NC Public Records and Personal knowledge of Author, Johnnie MILLER Prickett

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From, "Marriages of Rowan County, NC, 1753-1868, 1981 by Brent H. Holcomb", p. 277:

George Miller - Peggy Brandon, 13 August 1795.

also,

George Miller - Anne Chambers, 13 June 1822.

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Obiturary from, "Marriage and Death Notices from the Western Carolinian (Salisbury, NC) 1820-1842, An Indexed Abstract" :

13 Sep 1834 issue

"In this County, on Tuesday the 9th instant, Mr. George Miller, aged 66 years. The deceased came from Maryland early in life, and until a few years ago continued to reside in this place. He sustained through life the character of an upright man."

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George Miller Will

Filed with Superior Court, Rowan County, North Carolina, January, 2, 1834, Will Book H, Page 644

In the name of God, amen, I George Miller of the County of Rowan and State of North Carolina, being of sound mind and disposing memory, but feeble in body and knowing the uncertainty of life, do make, ordain and publish this my last will and testament.

Imprimis it is my anxious wish that the situation of my wife Ann Miller should be comfortable and easy and believing that in consequence of her age and feelings she is not able to manage the plantation Negroes & other affairs that she would necessarily have to attend to in a proper manner, I have therefore, after mature reflection thought best to adopt the following expedient as the only one that would give her satisfaction and render her situation comfortable of opportunity.

[I designate] my son-in-law, Lemuel Bingham, her trustee as he has much of her confidence.

I therefore give to Lemuel Bingham, in trust, the following property during her lifetime, and no longer, for her support and without any trouble to her and for the use and benefit of said Bingham and family with whom my wife Ann Miller is to live, also my daughter Eliza while she remains single, without any cost or charge, to wit, the whole of the plantation on which I now reside, including the land purchase from A.G. Carter, in all about two hundred and fifty acres, also all my household & kitchen furniture, subject to such legacies as may be hereafter made and excepted. Also all of my stock of my provisions on hand. Also my negro woman Rebecca, Milly, Chloe and her child, and my negro boys Moses and Henry.

It is further my wish that Manuel, Louisa, & Rachel and there (sic) families, with the exception Isham, now in possession of my son, Matthew F. Miller, be hired out to the best advantage by the trustee Lemuel Bingham and the proceeds of the hire applied, to the purposes above mentioned, by the trustee.

I further give to Lemuel Bingham trustee, for the purpose afore said, three horses-ponys; Charley, Fox & Betsey Baker, four cows and three smaller cattle to be selected by the trustee from my stock; all the hogs & sheep that belonging to the farm; all the corn, the wheat, hay, fodder & other provincles; also my wagon and gun, and the ploughs and gears; and all other farming tools, implements on the plantation that the said trustee may think necessary to perform the duties of his trade.

And it is further my will that Lemuel Bingham, the trustee, shall manage all & every portion of the property conveyed above in a way that he may think best calculated to advance the subject of the trust, and be subject to the contract or hindrance of no other persons. But should the trustee herein appointed think proper at any time hereafter to remove from the county and surrender the trust, then and in that case, it is my wish that my son Matthew F. Miller succeed him as trustee, with all the duties, rights & privileges attached to the trust, and that Lemuel Bingham, the old trustee, conveys & delivers to the said M.F. Miller, all and every portion of the property to him in trust, or to make the trust property in as good a situation as when the said Bingham received the same.

It is further my will if my wife, Ann Miller, should at any time become discontented and abandon the protection and support of the trustee and leave the plantation and his family, that there, and in that case, she forfeit all the rights and privileges to which she may be entitled to under this my will.

Item: I give my son Matthew F. Miller, in addition to which what I have already done for him, the plantation on which he now lives, purchased from Peter S. Parke, supposed to contain one hundred and twenty four acres more or less, to him, his heirs and assigns forever. Also the use of the negro boy, Isham, now in his possession until the death of my wife. I also give to him such of my wearing apparel as she may think proper to wear. And the balance of my clothes, it is my wish that my boy Isaac should have.

Item: I give to my son-in-law, Lemuel Bingham, in addition to what I have given him heretofore, my valuable negro boy Isaac, to him, his heirs and assigns forever.

Item: I give to my daughter Eliza, in addition to what I have already done for her, my boy Tom, a tailor by trade, and now living with Benjamin Fraley in Salisbury, to her heirs and assigns forever; also my silver soup ladle and my ivory handle knives and forks.

Item: I give my son, Gustavus Adolphus Miller, the plantation on which I now live after the death of my wife Ann Miller, to him, his heirs and assigns forever; also a note I hold on him for four hundred dollars; also my silver watch, a set of silver table spoons, one new feather bed now in my house; also a bedstead and furniture.

Item: the remainder of my property not herein devised to will, my horses, Macy, Jack, Snap & Rotruck, the balance of the cattle, my cart and still, and such articles as the trustee may think proper & advisable to sell, I wish to be disposed of at public sale and the proceeds of said sale and the money remaining on hand at my death, after defraying my funeral expenses and paying my just debts, I wish to be appropriated and applied by my executors to the defiance [defense] of my title to the negroes which come to me by my wife Ann Miller, to wit: Will, Rebecca, Chloe, Moses, Manuel, Henry, Louise, Pleasant, Milly, Mariah, Hariet, Rachel, Isam, Bill, Horice, & Laura, and after defraying said expenses, if there should be any money on hand, I wish it equally devided between my heirs.

Item: if my claim to said ???? negroes should be established, it is my will that they should be equally devided among my heirs and [if] they cannot agree as to the devission, I wish the negroes to be sold and the money arising from the sale to be equally devided amongst my heirs. But should my claim to them be established before the death of my wife Ann Miller, then and in that case, they are not to be devided or sold until after her death, but to remain in the hands of the trustee for the purpose above mentioned.

Item: On the death of my wife, it is my wish that all of my household and kitchen furniture be sold and the and the proceeds be equally devided amongst my heirs.

Lastly, I appoint my friend, Archibald G. Carter, Lemuel Bingham & Matthew F. Miller, Executors of this my last will and testament and enjoin on them never to surrender the negroes that come to me by my wife Ann Miller, to any person except as herein devised, until the title that belongs, legally established, to be in another person.

Given under my hand and seal, this Second day of January, 1834

Test George Miller (seal)

Jn. A. Meroney

John Hendricks

[Note: Archibald Grayson Carter (1801-1887) graduated from the University of North Carolina with an A.B. in 1820. He practiced law in Rowan County, North Carolina, and served as the county's senator in the North Carolina General Assembly for 1832-1833.

Obituary for Archibald Carter: Davie Times, 24 Mar 1882

Died in this place after a brief illness, Mr. A.G. Carter, on Sunday morning the 19th of March 1882, at 2:20 a.m. in his 81st year. Mr. Carter was born in Caswell County, March 29, 1801; graduated at the University of North Carolina in 1820, in the class with Judge Battle, Honorable Bat. Moore and other distinguished North Carolinians, and was, at the time of his death, the only surviving member of that class. He moved to this county, then a part of Rowan, and commenced the practice of law, shortly after he married a Miss Wilson and reared a large family. He served as Chairman of the County Court of Davie for nearly thirty years. In his younger days he was among the most energetic and enterpising men of the county. He was a fine businessman and devoted his time to the affairs and saved much money by his judicious management. No man was truer to the conviction of right, and earnestly devoted to whatever effected the welfare of the county. Thus another of the old landmarks have passed away. ]

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Daughter Elizabeth gives the birthplace of her father as Pennsylvania in the 1880 census.

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Son Gustavus Adolphus gives birthplace of father as Germany, and mother as England in the 1880 census.

 

Permalink Reply by Carla Jane Lamar Ray on March 26, 2011 at 6:25pm

I will check all my sources on this.  I was given this information from my mother who died in 2003.  She had recorded the information years back.  I have found numerous confirmations on Family Tree Maker and on Ancestry.com.  I will let you know what I have.