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Permalink Reply by Pianoman on March 24, 2012 at 10:25am

Hi, I have gotten involved in this thread today. I cant seem to find anything on Thomas or Ann , least of all a marriage record or parents? You mention only one son though, Francis? I have been searching using variations of the surname and found these following records, they are the only ones I can find relating to the time period and name? I hope they may be of use, note the spelling .............. ???

Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record
Day: 22
Month: Apr
Year: 1753
Son/Daughter: Son
Forename: Francis
Surname: Kinshot
First Parent: Thomas
Second Parent: Anne
Notes:
Parish: Greatham
County: Hampshire
Record source: Hampshire Baptisms
Data provider: Hampshire Genealogical Society

Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record
Day: 1
Month: Dec
Year: 1754
Son/Daughter: Daughter
Forename: Anne
Surname: Kinshot
First Parent: Thomas
Second Parent: Ann
Notes:
Parish: Greatham
County: Hampshire
Record source: Hampshire Baptisms
Data provider: Hampshire Genealogical Society

Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record
Day: 2
Month: May
Year: 1756
Son/Daughter: Son
Forename: Nicholas
Surname: Kinshot
First Parent: Thomas
Second Parent: Ann
Notes: priv bp, adm 19th
Parish: Greatham
County: Hampshire
Record source: Hampshire Baptisms
Data provider: Hampshire Genealogical Society

Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record
Day: 31
Month: Jan
Year: 1759
Son/Daughter: Daughter
Forename: Sarah
Surname: Kinshot
First Parent: Thomas
Second Parent: Anne
Notes:
Parish: Greatham
County: Hampshire
Record source: Hampshire Baptisms
Data provider: Hampshire Genealogical Society

Permalink Reply by Skant37 on March 25, 2012 at 12:40am

Hi Chris,

 you are amazing!  You must know just where to go!  Firstly, Ann Bailey spelling is really Ann Bayly (as far as I know), and she was supposed to have died during or soon after the birth of Francis.  You have now put a different view on the matter.  Kingshott was also written as Kinshot, Kingett, Kinget, depending on the persons knowledge of writing and spelling.  Maybe she lived longer and had more children.  She was born in Fernhurst W. Sussex, and I mispelled Thomas' birthplace, as in the Marriage Info it says he is described as a "Bachelor of Conford near Bramshott, Hampshire". They were married in Greatham 1752, and had Francis 1753.

Could Thomas have married another Ann ? or did she not die after Francis?

How could I get the info on Thomas birth in Hampshire?  Could the Genealogical society have this information?

Thanks for any help you can give me on either Thomas or Ann.

Regards  Gay

Permalink Reply by Pianoman on March 25, 2012 at 3:32am

Gay, not amazing, just know my way around computers and FMP! Never underestimate the power of "google" either!

http://www.southernlife.org.uk/bramshot.htm

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=482347&y=132681&z=3...

I still can't find anything for Thomas. . . . . . . but looky looky, what's this? I have no idea if this is your man or not. But, you'll need to investigate it somehow?

Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record
Day: 16
Month: Apr
Year: 1779
Son/Daughter: Son
Forename: Thomas
Surname: Kinshot
First Parent: Thos
Second Parent: Mary
Notes:
Parish: Bramshott
County: Hampshire
Record source: Hampshire Baptisms
Data provider: Hampshire Genealogical Society

The birth of a Thomas in Bramshott. Could be Ann did die and he did re marry?

What are the records that you hold for Thomas & Ann then, are they of good source and reliable?

Regards

Chris

Permalink Reply by Skant37 on March 25, 2012 at 8:10pm

Hi Chris,

And the plot thickens!!!  Late yesterday, I wa gobsmacked to find that the Legg Family Tree (RogerLegg90), has Thomas and Ann having Francis 1753, Anne 1754, Nicholas,1756, Sarah 1759,   --  Then in 1764 married a Mary Huntingford, and had Thomas 1764 (married Sarah Skelton), Mary 1768 (possibly died), William 1778 (died soon after), Thomas 1779 ??? (he married Ann Unknown and had a son John 1804) & Mary 1781.  The 2 Thomas' confuse me and maybe there were 2 families of that name in Bramshott.  I was too tired last night to go any further on the Hampshire Baptism/ Marriage/Genealogical site, but will try to do so in the next few days.  I have tried to look for Ann's death information.  Still the biggest problem for me is finding who Thomas' parents were, and trying to trace back from there.

The records I hold for Thomas and Ann have come from Jan Brian Kingshott, who has done a lot of research into the Kingshott families in England and comes from Dover.  He maintains that Thomas did marry Ann Bayly and had Francis who I am descended from.  He is trying to prove that he is from that line of Kingshotts same as me.  He has a website, which is great and you might like to have a look at that.  Just type in his name.  Thank you for all your help.   Regards   Gay