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Permalink Reply by Stéphan carca on January 9, 2011 at 3:13am

Sorry, I was travelling to England for Christmas on the day you posted, and must have missed it.

1901 census

40 Gerrard St., Lancaster

Jonas Morton head marr 30 oil cloth warehouseman b Blackburn Lancs

Elizabeth Morton wife 33 b Lancaster, Lancs

Jane Morton dau 4 b Lancaster

Margaret Morton dau 2 b Lancaster

You'll find his marriage registration at www.freebmd.org.uk . Using the reference you'll find there, you can order his marriage certificate from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/  , from which you'll learn his father's name. This might enable us to find him in the 1871/81/91 censuses, as I can't find him in any of them, unless he's been enumerated as James. Nor can I find a birth of a Jonas in Lancs that fits.

There's a tree on Ancestry at http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/2104102/person/802032499 which looks wrong as his mother would have been 59 when he was born in Blackburn, and she never seems to have set foot outside the USA. But there are a couple of photos of Jonas, one of them with his bike.

But the first step has to be to get his marriage cert., which will cost you £9-25

Bonne année

Stéphan

Permalink Reply by Claudia Valentine on January 9, 2011 at 6:21pm

The tree you were looking on ancestry belongs to one of my cousins. I know she has wrong information on her tree. She not only shows our great grandfather's parents has being born in the United States and dying here., she has his father's death as six years before Jonas was born.

I have hard copies of the photos she posted. In the photo with the bike, Jonas is the one in the middle. The one on the left I think is James Gardner, Jonas' brother-in-law and the one on the right is his stepson, Robert Thornton.

I am planning to order Jonas and Elizabeth's marriage certificate. My mom will find it to be a very interesting and unusual birthday present.

Claudia

Permalink Reply by Just M on February 7, 2011 at 8:38am

Did Jonus die in Ontario?

 

Name: Jonas Morton

Death Date: 18 Jun 1913
Death Location: Wentworth
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Birth Location: England
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS935_192

 

 2 of his kids appear to have married in Ontario

 

Name: Jane Morton
Birth Place: Lancaster Eng
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Father Name: Jonas Morton
Mother Name: Elizabeth Gardner
Spouse Name: Albert Hannah
Spouse's Age: 24
Spouse Birth Place: England
Spouse Father Name: Albert Hannah
Spouse Mother Name: Maria Truesdale
Marriage Date: 22 Sep 1907
Marriage Location: Wentworth
Marriage County: Wentworth
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932_438

 

Name: Margaret Morton
Birth Place: Lancashire England
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Father Name: Jonas Morton
Mother Name: Elizabeth Cardiner
Spouse Name: Harold Gibbons
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse Birth Place: Buffalo USA
Spouse Father Name: Fredk Gibbons
Spouse Mother Name: Maud Fitzsimmons
Marriage Date: 30 Dec 1918
Marriage Location: Wentworth
Marriage County: Wentworth
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932_469

Permalink Reply by Claudia Valentine on February 7, 2011 at 9:13pm

Yes,  Jonas died in Ontario. I have found his burial site.  Jonas was my great-grandfather. He immigrated to Canada in 1911, with my great-grandmother and their kids following a few months later. My Grandfather got married in Michigan and his third sister married in New York state.

I've able to find information on my Great-grandmother's family in England, but not Jonas. It's like he just appeared out of nowhere.

Permalink Reply by David11000 on February 8, 2011 at 12:15am

The starting point has to be Jonas' marriage cert, which should include his father's name. We might then stand a chance of finding the family in a census.

David

Permalink Reply by Just M on February 8, 2011 at 5:06am

FreeBMD Marriage Index

Name: Jonas Morton
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Manchester (1837-1924)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 252

Name: Elizabeth Gardner
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Manchester (1837-1924)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 252

Ancestry.com

Permalink Reply by Claudia Valentine on February 26, 2011 at 5:10pm

I got Jonas' Marriage certificate in today's mail. His father's name was James and he was married on Feb 20, 1897 at St. Johns in Manchester.

Permalink Reply by Claudia Valentine on April 15, 2011 at 7:04pm

I was looking over Jonas and Elizabeth"s marriage certificate the other day while framing it for my mom and noticed that Jonas' father's last name was spelled Morten. I wonder if this is why he can't be found in any census records before 1901.

Permalink Reply by Stéphan carca on April 16, 2011 at 1:12am

What was James' occupation on Jonas' marriage cert?

I've been through all the Jonas' in Lancs and can't see him under any name that might be construed as Morton. The closest is Moore where there's a 7 year old son in 1881 born Blackburn, but his mother is Ellen described as married but no sign of a husband.

Permalink Reply by Claudia Valentine on April 16, 2011 at 8:08am

James was a joiner.

Permalink Reply by Claudia Valentine on May 7, 2011 at 3:20pm

I still can't find any records for Jonas other than his marriage certificate, his death in Canada and census records after 1900, so I have started thinking out of the box. I found a James Morton who was a joiner in the 1881 census who had a son who was also named James. I am starting to think the perhaps Jonas either changed his name or used his middle name to distinguish himself from his father. I know that the practise of using the middle name is common here in the states.

The only thing wrong with the record is the birthplace doesn't match. The James Morton I found (the son ) was born in Walkden instead of Blackburn.

The mother's name in this file was Ellen.